[INFO] 120307 TRUTH REGARDING JYJ PRIVATES

Recently the issue of violence against a fangirl has emerged with much heat. The famous Hero-Jaejoong of TVXQ was caught inflicting verbal/physical offense, the proof recorded as a mp3 file and up online. However, there is a lot more to this issue than what was disclosed in the media. The Korean fans had known all along that someday, there would be hell to pay because of the PRIVATES. Who are the PRIVATES? Just keep reading and you’ll find out.

Below is the original version of the recording.

“Dispatch,” the broadcast company that published this recording, purposely cut out certain parts of the recording to make it sound like Jaejoong constantly swore and inflicted physical offenses to a innocent fan girl. When in truth, this is not what had happened. NOT AT ALL.

Violence is not acceptable and inexcusable in any kind of situation, but in this case, one needs to understand the reasons behind this seemingly appalling act, and WHY this happened.

PLEASE READ THE WHOLE POST

this will educate you about DBSK/TVXQ on a whole new level, since Asian fans did not bother to mention this aspect of TVXQ’s stardom when spreading news.

The crux of this issue is “who are PRIVATES?”

recorded at around September, 2009
*ignore grammatical mistakes, this was directly translated word by word. This is so that Jaejoong’s tone is conveyed with accuracy. (and he is drunk)

(start)

JAEJOONG:

following me around and contacting me…
it’s really fun for you guys…
really fun…
never really thinking about how much stressful it is for us
I’d rather become normal and live without any of this
Anywhere I go someone follows
anywhere I go someone calls me
Anywhere i go someone calls me and they’re like
where are you…you’re there right? always living and and running away in this anxiety
am i a convict? ha….i was in Japan for 4days during my vacation. i was in Japan, because of you…because of you, huh? Fuck…it’s funny, right? funny?
if i come (to korea) fuck I have no freedom…do you think i’d be here this fucking…
i’d rather be in a jail and eat fucking bean rice (*what they give out it prison) and exercise. i’d rather go to military and live as a soldier fucking because of you guys…
fuck do I still need to be here (in korea)?
bitches like you….do you know how many of you there are? there are tenfolds, fucking taxi cab drivers need to make a living and take you guys and fucking follow me around…risking their lives and follow me around
even if its the red light…even if there’s a bunch of cars in front…they go into opposite lane and drive in reverse and follow me around…
the fucking bastards who follow me for money and the fans who give them money to follow me…fuck because of the PRIVATES and the PRIVATE CABS follow me, do I have to go hide for the rest of my life? huh? huh? why am I like this am I a convict? do I have to be in Korea because of you bitches? huh? you’re “PRIVATES” you bitches, fuck do I have to live like this? huh? huh? because of you? fuck after this fucking PRIVATE bitches will probably call on the police….you guys will call the police. No, it happened a lot until now. if they don’t they’re nice kids…they do this shit and after fucking call on the police. they say they feel like crap because I fucking shit at them. they ask for compensation those fucking PRIVATES….fuck how do you trust those PRIVATES. Do I have to cover up for those fucking bitches following me around? Bitches? do you know how many times I’ve had to hit you guys on the head like right now? I…in tenfolds…can’t even count it, go bitch, is this fun? oh it’s fun right? here, come here, come closer, is this fun? is this like a survival game? its fun right? fucking fun following me around. If i hit you guys on the head once, then you guys call on the police saying that you can’t go home again ‘cause they’re swollen.
Bitches when i go around all day you’ll follow me and what, you guy’s call the police because you can’t go home? shit, why do you follow me? you’re saying that I can’t go home? you have that much time? Fucking Bitches I only sleep 3 hours a day, what for a week, you guys are saying stuff like, oh Jaejoong’s like vapor, how can he escape so well, you guy’s then call me and text me…it’s also posted on blogs constantly….I always read those blogs that you do…who went to the hair salon and when what time when Changmin did this and when Yunho did that…you guys know everything like fucking wizards
but the rest of you guys…why didn’t they know me? this vacation? why didn’t they know where I went? huh? Should I keep on hiding like this? Hiding is fucking retarded….but what are you guys who follow that around? Huh fucking bitch? As a singer could I ever get a girlfiend? for real? huh? do i have to check your blogs in hours and minute units when I move? huh? Am I the President? fuck you guys are just fucking hoes, at guys huh? you want to get attention from young idol members fucking bitches…all against the privacy of the singer you like and get on taxi cabs, do you have that much money? if you bought even one CD with that money…we would have gotten number one on the chart. fuck, in Japan, we worked for 5 years when we got that number one title and the second or first rank….even if they support so much from DNBN (dbsk fansite), if you guys had bought a fucking CD instead of following me around in taxi cabs we could have fucking went on the Oricon charts for what rank..you bitches always doing this shit with taxis, fuck do you know why I bought my car RA? I bought it to lose the taxis, I bought it to lose the taxis but I just couldn’t bitches there were too many taxis, those fucking taxis really just rolling over for money and follow me to the extreme, you guys spend that money to the extreme and follow me. and you guys are still greedy, with sleep, you guys pull an all-nighter all the time but say say shit about us when we do. And when i get so fucking pissed and can’t contain myself, you say you can’t go home because your face is swollen and want compensation money and call the police bitches.
Are those fans? Shitting…bitches lets see if you fucking go to heaven you fucking bastards fuck…
you think I can like you?
fuck you guys do it like this and thats why we start liking the Japanese business bitches you know? When we do interviews about concerts, what “we like when (Korean) fans sing along during ballad songs”? and “we like the japanese cuz they listen well?” “that is the difference between Korea and Japan?” Fucking Bullshit.
I don’t want to humiliate Korea in Japan so that’s why I say i like that when you guys sing along during ballad songs
fucking always talking always following around always screaming
It’s because of you PRIVATES that we start liking the foreign fans more. Why do you think Japan and China’s like this right now. Its because they’re imitating you guys, the foreigners. are you happy now?

**Korean Fan culture included excessive screaming until the late 2009, when the Cassiopeas changed the official support chant into “quiet during ballads, official/organized chant during dance songs.”

**This recording was done by a Private
Private= are not considered fans. they follow around and kill the privacy of idols. A lot of idols have privates but FT island, Big Bang, and TVXQ is known to have the worse. Especially TVXQ Privates have invented a new method of stalking called the PRIVATE TAXI CABS, in which they pay average $800 to follow TVXQ around. EVERYWHERE.

**TVXQ currently has average 150 PRIVATES following them around.(per day). these include foreign privates from China, Japan, and reaaalllllyyyy the minority European, American fans

**All members of TVXQ have been subject to the crimes of PRIVATES for average 9-10 years. Korean laws can’t protect the star because most of these PRIVATES are underage and those who are not, work in more complicated ways (they’re rich for one, and have a background).

LOOK BELOW FOR THE INFURIATING THINGS PRIVATES DO/DID

PRIVATES.
WHO ARE THEY.

1. What is a PRIVATE?

PRIVATE = a sasaeng fan (a “fan” that stalks the privacy of a star)

definition:

Someone who follows around/ stalk a star (especially an idol star), and watches every single movement with a emotion above a fan’s.

Most of these fans give up on their everyday lives, and follow around the star’s schedule.

These fans are STALKERS that violate the privacy of the star, consequently emerging as a social issue.

Below is from a documentary about “sasaengs”

 (below is the translation for the internet postings above)

I’m sorry Yoochun………

I went to a PC bang (internet cafe)….

the ID I had with my name had too much fees due…

i borrowed…f..k..(*this private stole his social security number/ she isn’t the only one)

I really have to have an ID for this place……

and this place has the cheapest fees……..

and Mom’s didn’t work, Dad has his own…….

I couldn’t think of any other Social Security Number….

the ones I thought of….truthfully, your’s is the easiest….

sorry….Yoochun…(laughing sound)

I really needed it thou……f…..

I really needed it!! I’m sorry..I’ll log out afterwards…

What is this you bitch (laughing sound)

Yoochun (laughing sound)

(Translation)

Agency PR:

“It’s a great stress. Even if we don’t disclose the schedule they always follow around. I don’t know how they know

Really, they’re like ghosts, they follow everywhere

Even the stars themselves know, so its a great stress.

That makes the stars become uncomfortable about going outside, so they stop going outside, they stop meeting other people

You can’t see them anything other than a necessary evil. They’re just a social issue.”

(image of Privates of WG asking for where WG lives)

a PRIVATE:

“It’s an addiction. It gets worse. I have to come periodically. If I don’t I keep thinking.

If I don’t go, It’s weird, strange. and makes me want to go..”

2. Write on blogs what the members do.

(From here is a translation of a Korean Post about the PRIVATES)

In a TV Show

Uknow Yunho (TVXQ):

Everythings fine, just don’t come to our house.

Fans:

okay~

have you seen any singers asking directly like that? Even if they do that, the PRIVATES never stop. Have you ever seen the speed of a PRIVATE TAXI CAB? they go over 100km/h, it’s not even one, there are more than ten of these cabs.

More than 80% of the times, the members are involved in a accident because of these PRIVATE TAXI CABS. Around where the members live, there are always PRIVATES sitting around.

-this picture is only a small amount of them

Taxi Cab driver

(normally) they call them PRIVATE TAXI CABS

…

this is what they call a PRIVATE TAXI CAB

they receive around $800, and these drivers contact each other to locate where TVXQ is. After a concert, it’s normal to see at least 10 of these following TVXQ’s van.

(*from a personal account written in the comments: I saw Yunho once and I’m not really a fan so I just thought, oh, cool, an idol star. But when his car started, there were like, at least 15 people who jumped out of their seats and i swear you, 18, friggin 18 TAXI CABS started trailing the guy. I felt really sorry for him.)

They Purposely get involved in (or cause) a car accident.

There are PRIVATE TAXI CAB drivers that signs a contract just to crash TVXQ’s car.

In actuality, Micky and Jaejoong’s personal cars were wrecked purposely.

There was also a time during the 4th album activities when a member was running away from a PRIVATE and had totrash his BMW because he ran into a electric pole trying to escape from these PRIVATES.

365 days a year, they follow them around.

Even during the 10 days vacation TVXQ gets in a year. They even visit the member’s families’ homes, trying to bribe them with presents

TVXQ in a TV Show

Translation:

(for instance Xiah Junsu) his butt

For Jaejoong, it’s his arms and chest muscles

They just touch them. grope it.

among the hordes of people, a hand pops out of between the bodies and starts groping.

Micky’s Twitter

Translation:

“It’s just…too much….I hate it.”

“the people in front of my house….I can’t think of them as anything else than antifans”

“ah…FRUSTRATION!!! the people in front of my house…Please go.”

they copy the member’s phones (this is common), they check all the calls that come to that phone. They even check all the phone numbers in the contacts list just to check if it’s a girl or not.

TV show

Jaejoong:

“I was at the Han River so I texted Yoochun and told him to come out, and when I got a reply, it said ‘who are you and why are you calling Yoochun?’”

3. The star directly pleading

mjjeje (Hero Jaejoong)_for 7 years, on busy days, I didn’t have much time to meet my friends, family and loved ones. Even that time was wasted for average 2, 3 hours on the road, and I couldn’t meet them. I don’t think that’s love. I understand why you miss us…because I did too.

All of us 5 members have experience; we cried at home, we cried on the streets, we were involved in car accidents, but all we saw across the glass windows of the PRIVATE TAXI CABS were smiles and smirks. Of course I tried playing angry. But not only for me, don’t go through that method of love because all it does is shorten our lifespans. I’m sorry late at night…

Jaejoong asked G-dragon from BB if he also had PRIVATE TAXI CABS, and G-dragon didn’t know what they were. In truth, there aren’t that many singers who have PRIVATE TAXI CABS

if you type in 09 in Naver (Korean google), the auto search brings up

090104 (date) DBSK

090104 (date) Yunho

090104 (date) Junsu

090104 (date) Jaejoong

090104 (date) Yoochun

090103 (date) Jaejoong

if you type in “airport in”

in red box

DBSK airport in

if you type in “airport out”

in red box

DBSK airport out

TVXQ has been through this every single day for 9 years. PRIVATES watch everything they do and follow everywhere they go. The proof: you just type in dates and  for every single date, information about what TVXQ did where and with whom pops up on “auto search”

(In the case of Korea, the auto search only puts up words that are clicked a certain number of times, nationally, for a long period of time)

A post that came up in a PRIVATE blog. Changmin was trying to shoo the fans in the TAXI CAB and asked them to open the window. The fans closed the window and Changmin’s hands were stuck, bleeding. The fans posted this, enjoying the fact and saying that this was “rare.”

she used a lot of “ㅋㅋㅋ” this is a character that signifies LAUGH in Korean

4. Was hit with a rock by a Chinese PRIVATE

What happened:

Changmin and Jaejoong was in the Sokcho Public road Rest place, in order to go to the bathroom. 2 PRIVATES from China followed them in, trying to get a video footage of this. Jaejoong and Changmin scolded them. Later on, the PRIVATES threw their video camera and swore at Changmin, saying the worst curse in the Chinese language.

沈昌珉 神經病 不得好死(you won’t die in peace)

Constantly hitting Changmin on the shoulders and head with a bag.

Changmin was teary, and when the other members joined him, he started crying.

Worse, that bag was full of ROCKS. This is the picture from when that happened.

These are the type of people they are dealing with

Regarding Changmin, there was another famous happening

Changmin crying because of PRIVATES

there are a lot of versions to this story, but essentially, he 1. cried. 2. fake cried.

to get rid of the PRIVATES. He couldn’t.

-The PRIVATES posted this on their blog with pride.

(note)

Translation:

#

anyone who wants DBSK phone numbers or social security numbers, contact me. I’m not giving them away, I’m selling them. You can’t really say that I can’t do it.  A lot of people have been asking on the comments so I’m giving you a chance.

6. saves a PRIVATE who almost got hit by a car, BUT other PRIVATES started imitating

(Picture)

One PRIVATE was almost hit by a car while following Yunho around. After this, other PRIVATES started imitating this, trying to get saved by a member.

7. DBSK says they want to live as an average person in the next life.

Translation:

(I heard Jaejoong cried to his mother during the vacation. That he couldn’t take the PRIVATES anymore. Once DBSK was asked “what do you want to be in your after-life?” Do you know what they said? they all said that they wanted to live as a normal person. They really want to live an average life because of these PRIVATES.)

In truth, not only Jaejoong, but Yoochun mentioned that

“I don’t want to be born again in my afterlife (I don’t want to be reincarnated)”

Other Criminal Acts

-Give Junsu…the blood from…Menstrual Cycle

-Kiss Jaejoong when he is sleeping in his house

-Get Junsu involved in a car accident while following him around

-Identity theft

-Micky Camera Happening (when a PRIVATE slapped Yoochun in the face and Yoochun blocked, and then hit the girl’s elbow with his palm. later this video was spread as “Micky beating up a fangirl” This video can be found on youtube in many angles)

-copying the house keys to DBSK’s home

-Changmin’s finger was broken once because of a PRIVATE

-the Rock in the Bag Happening (mentioned above)

-Identity theft with the member’s Family Social Security numbers

-Call member’s family after finding their phone numbers

-Block service of TVXQ’s cellphones and check the call list to make sure who’s a girl or not

-Breaking into TVXQ’s house and look for their legal stamp in order to forge marriage papers

-Put in (their own) underwear into member’s bags

-Stealing member’s possession

They think it’s normal and common to just freely go to and from the member’s house

More below

(a picture of Micky’s house taken by a  PRIVATE)

*FYI This apartment is known for one HELL of a security system.

TV Show

Jaejoong (or Yoochun):

Once a member was sleeping and in the middle of the night, the sensor lights were flicking on and off, when the members checked, there was a girl standing there alone in their house

WHEN YOU SEE IT YOU’LL SHIT BRICKS

can’t see?

look behind in the window

QUOTES

Hero – “For instance my cellphone just one day is randomly blocked, or lost. They print out the call list and they call my friends, to check if they are girls or not.”

Xiah – “Apparently you can hack into Hardwares. They know what I did, what music I heard through the internet.”

This is a part of a news report about PRIVATES

“Graphic Designer Hyekyung Jin (27) has also been a TVXQ PRIVATE for 2 years. She said she has ‘worked’ even harder than those Chinese and Korean fans who moved into the villa right next to the Samsung-dong (area) A Apartment where TVXQ lives together. She says ‘as I worked as a PRIVATE I meet them a lot, you can tell they are really rich.’

There are even Japanese fans who moved to Seoul and stalk them. SM entertainment PR Kim mentioned that ‘there are fans who come like they’re a part of this company. They wait all day. They vary from the students who came for education during break, and ‘gold misses’ in their 30s.’

College student Heeyoung Jung (22) has been a Xiah PRIVATE for 6 months. ‘PRIVATES don’t really take care in the official schedules,’ she said, ‘after class I go right to their (TVXQ) house; I stayed until dawn.’

Eun Ju Hong (29) who works in a department store recently bought a new car in order to work as a PRIVATE more efficiently. Until now she had used a call-van, but she reached a conclusion to buy a new car rather than to pay from $15 to $30 an hour.”

A news reporter who knew about these TVXQ PRIVATES once said,

“It’s a wonder how TVXQ doesn’t go insane.”

There are so much that aren’t written in this post, but the happenings that are listed here were the big ones that actually gained some attention.

Ever since their debut, TVXQ has been subject to these PRIVATES for at least 9 years. Except for their homes and company grounds that they can’t come in, PRIVATES are everywhere. They are STILL a problem, even now.

Can’t you just sue them? It just doesn’t work that way. They’ve been stalked for 9 years straight; who can compensate for this loss of privacy?

etc.

in the comments of this post.

a personal account of a non-fan

“답답해서 적어요 답답하네요 이아이들 이렇게되기전에 숙소앞에 팬들에게 말도걸어주고 웃어주고 먼저 손내밀고 인사해주는 그냥 장난좋아하는 남자아이들 이엿어요 택시타고따라다니는거 …(shortened)… 제가 아는 이들의 모습은 절대 그냥 따라다녓다고 저럴 애들의 모습이 아닌데.. 잠시 핸드폰으로 판들어왔다가 답답해서 올립니다 제 생각엔 지금도 저 사생이라는 범죄자 아이들은…. 오히려 이런 이슈가 된걸 즐겁게 생각할 것 같네요”

“I am currently so angry and lost. Before they became like this they were the kind of kids who use to strike a conversation, hold out a hand to even the fans in front of their houses. They said hello and..they were just kids who liked to joke around like average guys. They never liked Taxis that followed them but who would have? But they were still worried of those PRIVATES and they use to worry them and ask them to go home because it’s dangerous. I’m not a fan…I can’t say the details but the kids that I saw..were like that. Somehow I got to know them. I helped Yoochun’s brother and mother once without knowing who they were, and Yoochun came to say thank you, and just for some reason I kept running into him in random places. Then, if he saw the fans on the Taxi pass by, the manager use to go and gently scold them not to do such dangerous things. And if the fans don’t follow anymore, the members were like “good girl. good girl” and they waved their hands goodbye. After this became an issue I saw the video and heard the recordings and it tore my heart. Jaejoong really loves his fans, you would know if you are a fan, right? Although he might look a little cold, even when fans bothered his mother’s store with prank calls, he just smiled and that was all. He seemed drunk in that recording. If someone needs to be punished, it’s these PRIVATES who are criminals, and JYJ. This is not a shield. But all I am saying is that, understand the immense pain that is behind everything. I understand because I knew them at least a little bit, so I pity them. But I saw a lot of people thinking along the same lines. Do you think they wouldn’t have tried all sorts of stuff during this long time? ….Just how far….just how far had these people gone to make Jaejoong lift his hand. I know violence is wrong, but I understand, and that’s what makes me sad. That each other makes each other. Who made these kids like this…those frivolous kids who use to hold out hands for the PRIVATES in front of their homes….why they became like this….The kids I know aren’t the kind of people to do those stuff just because fans were following them…In my personal opinion, these PRIVATES are probably enjoying this attention, even now.

**TVXQ still has an average 150 PRIVATES following them around
ETC 2.
이번 사건 입장바꿔 생각해보기.txt
lets think of this backwards.txt
9년~10년 동안 쫓아다니는 이름모를 남자가있음
there is a anonymous man following you around for 9-10 years
이 남자가 나한테 자기 정액묻은 팬티를 보내고
This guy sends me his underwear with his semen
내가 자고있는데 우리집 들어와서 내 얼굴 쓰담쓰담하고 볼에 뽀뽀도 함
He breaks into my house and feels my face and kisses me while I sleep
남자친구도 못만남 얼마안가면 그 남자가 무서워서 헤어지자고 그럼
I don’t have a boyfriend cuz every one of them gets scared the shit out of
내 친구가 나한테 만나자고 문자보내면 내친구한테 “넌 누군데 우리 ㅇㅇ이 불러내?”
When my friend texts me saying “when do we hang out?” He calls my friend asking “Who are you and why are you calling out ____?”
이런 보복 문자가 친구들한테 감 참다못해 핸드폰을 바꿨음 ” 핸드폰 번호 바꾸셨네요?ㅎ” 하고
I can’t take this anymore so I change my cell phone number. I get a text message. “you changed your number  ”
문자가와 내가 차를 몰고 친구만날려고 나갔음
I went out to hang out with friends
근데 남자가 택시타고 따라와서 일부로 내차를 박음 죽을뻔한적도있음
but the guy followed me on a Taxi and purposely crashes my car. I almost died.
차에서 내려 화를냈는데 웃고있는 남자 얼굴만 보임 그 남자는 내 집에들어와 속옷도 가져감
I tried being angry after getting out of the car, but all I see is the man smirking. He goes through my closet and takes my underwear
그리고 나 없을때 내집들어와서 내집 사진 찍어서 보냄 부모님 댁에 갈려는데 그 남자도 어김없이 따라옴
And when I’m not home he breaks in and takes pictures of my house and sends me. I go to my parent’s house, he follows.
어쩌다 해외출장을 가는데 해외까지 따라옴 그 남자는 내폰을 복사해서 감시함 사이트를 가입하려고 하면
I somehow go on a business trip out of the country. This man follows. He copied my phone and is constantly watching. If I try to become a member on a website, 이미 다 가입되어있음
I’m already a member
그남자는 지나가는 나를 보면 싸대기를 때리기도함 그리고 지나가는 내 가슴도 만지고 소중이 터치도함
This man just slaps me in the face for no reason when I walk on the streets. He also gropes on my breasts and touches my private space.
이 생활이 9년간 지속됨
This goes on for 9 years
그리고 내가 술한잔 먹고나왔는데 그 남자가 그앞에 나를 빤히 보고있다면?
So I had a drink. And I walk out and the guy is staring at me.
신고도 여러번했지만 초범이라 풀려나고 경찰에선 크게 신경 안씀 니가 좋아서 그랬다함.
I already called the police, but it’s his “first offense” so the police don’t really care. They say he did it because he loved me.

The conclusion of this Post is not to avert the clear offense that Jaejoong inflicted. That, clearly, was a mistake. Violence is not something that should be excusable under circumstances. However, these circumstances in turn, can show REASONS. We are human. Before we are a girl or a fan or a Korean or a foreigner, WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. Judge for yourself if what happened now, or actually, what happened back in 2009 recorded in that mp3 file, is really such an issue. As a Korean Cassiopeia who translated this and had to go through numerous posts to gather data, I feel sick after reading this more than three times. There are SO MUCH MORE. I just couldn’t get myself to translate it all. My plea is, know who you are a fan of. Because he is not what the Media criticized him to be. Above all, he is, like us, a human being.

++)addition of information: currently there are about 800,000 official Cassiopeias in Korea. They are the “Official members” who bothered to go on the website and go through the strenuous “level test.” There are approximately 300,000 Official Bigeast Fans (Japanese fansite). These people are those who PAID to become fans. This kind of gives you an idea of how wide the TVXQ fanbase is. Amongst these people, there are those who are like the heartless morons up there. Currently, the Cassiopeia fanbase DOES NOT regard the PRIVATES as an official fan; exactly why they are not called PRIVATE fans. They are just PRIVATES. (morons, in my opinion)

+++) I didn’t know this, but apparently PRIVATES weren’t as reprimanded here(US) as in Korea. Some websites just use their postings and pictures…In most Korean DBSK fansites, it is officially BANNED to post ANY information/picture/video from a PRIVATE source. (even though the media doesn’t agree). I hope this would change things in the International Fandom about…these sources.

**All information above was filtered; those postings that did not include video/ picture footage or proof were omitted. The quotes are from TV shows that you can look up online.

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